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Matter of Opinion

Our Mount Rushmore of Fictional Presidents

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Happy holidays! Our gift to you is full access to a recent subscribers-only bonus episode. After a “stranger than fiction” presidential race, the hosts take a deep dive into the messy movie and television plots that actually put this election to shame. Enjoy!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, Matter of Opinion listeners, it's Michelle Cottle here, and we have a special holiday treat for you.

0:09.5

Last month, we released a bonus episode for our paid subscribers, but today, we're going to share it with all of you.

0:17.6

It's just a taste so you can hear what we're doing for people who subscribe.

0:21.4

And if you aren't a paid subscriber yet, what on earth are you doing?

0:27.1

Go on over to Apple or Spotify and link your New York Times subscription or sign up for a new audio subscription.

0:35.2

Now take a listen and enjoy.

0:47.0

All right. Well, happy early, stop laughing.

0:50.0

I'm sorry. I have some issues this week. So happy early holiday Mobsters and welcome to the matter of opinion. Bonus feed.

0:59.2

Bonus. Carlos came up with the suggestion to talk about our favorite fictional presidents, why they appeal to us.

1:06.1

Blame me. What do you mean why you? You get credit for when you come up with a good idea.

1:10.1

I said, blame me.

1:11.3

He actually wanted us to pick our favorite magical realist Latin American novelists, but that was vetoed.

1:18.3

You're pigeonholing me.

1:19.3

I'm not into the magical realism.

1:21.2

I'm more of like a gritty, varagaciosia realism.

1:24.3

But they get wrapped up into the boom generation.

1:28.2

This is my recurring.

1:29.0

Anyway, sorry.

1:30.4

My recurring way of pushing Carlos' buttons is to imply that he likes Gabrielle Garcia-Marcos.

1:37.6

I mean, he's okay.

1:38.9

He's just like, he's not my favorite.

1:40.7

That's all.

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