Hey guys, so we are here. We are actually interviewing Pamela Duff. She is a mental health

counselor. I'm pretty stoked about this. How are you feeling about this? I'm good about it. I've been

waiting to do this for a while now. I have so many questions and want to pick so many brains and

this is exciting for me. I've been wanting this whole interview

thing to happen to evolve the podcast for so long and I feel like that evolution

is really really going. So Pamela can you tell us a little bit about what you do and what your field is so

that everybody can kind of understand exactly because you recommended choice

theory to us yes that is a huge thing in our lives right now especially in

discord so okay yeah I'm I'm in thing in our lives right now especially in discord. So, okay.

Yeah, I'm a mental health counselor.

So most of my focus is on traditional talk therapy.

So I basically sit and talk to people through their problems for about six to eight hours a day.

It's focused a little bit on mental illness, but a lot of it's more holistic.

So I'm not like a psychologist where I'm like coming in diagnosed diagnosed and then going from there. It's a lot more whole person centered.

Okay.

Oh, I work with adults.

I work with adults.

Adult strictly.

Okay.

Yeah.

Do you see a lot of, or do you experience a lot of crazy things?

Like sometimes you have to really work through

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