You can find more information, photos and advice sheets on all the plants and recipes that we talk about in this podcast by heading to the links in the show notes or on our website at sarahavin.com. Welcome to Grow Cook Eat Arrange with me, Arthur Parkinson and Sarah Raven.

In this episode, we're going to be talking about stalwart summer flowering perennials, like

Cosmirs, Japanese anemones, Astas, Echinaceas, Veronicaostrums and Centered flocks.

So, Arthur, what are your favourites?

Well, I'd love to say a Canocious, Sarah, but every year I plant them, almost, and they never come back for me.

But I know you've got some beautiful varieties at Perch Hill, which are quite newly bred

ones, so maybe next year I'll treat myself to one at Perch Hill, which are quite newly bred ones.

So maybe next year I'll treat myself to one called Marmalade, which is the most lovely

sea and enemy drooping, petalled creature.

I think they've got stronger, haven't they, in recent years with modern breeding.

I think the thing with Echinacea is particularly those fancy ones like marmalade, which, as you say,

they look like rosettes that are Jim Karner. They've got, they're all sort of fruffy in the

middle. But I think with them, they really hate being overcrowded. So what we found here in,

we did a trial of them, I think it's four or five years ago actually and there were beautiful

ones called like summer salsa and summer samba and marmalade and strawberry shortcake all these

crazy names but what we found is that they just if you overcrowed them or overshadow them with

another perennial they disappear disappear. So they are

best actually in either right at the front of the border by the path so that at least they're not

being overshadowed in sort of that whole area of their route or in a cutting garden setting,

they thrive because of course you've got a row of them

and then there's a path both sides and they've really, really got incredibly strong,

good clumps there which come back year on year.

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