Good-day humans, welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas.

Here's a dangerous idea for you.

The best way to transcend our differences and come together as humans is through art.

That doesn't really sound like a very dangerous idea actually.

It sounds almost like a cliche. Maybe that's the dangerous idea. Is it merely a cliche that art can bring people together?

Or is there a common empathy that art can foster that is basically crucial to the flourishing

of humankind? Emile Sherman thinks so. He's an Australian film and television producer. He's

been on the show before. One of the few goats who is able to come back onto this

illustrious program because he has a new podcast called The Sandbox where he takes, so let me

give you a little bit of background about him.

So he is the managing director of this Australian and British production company and won an Academy

Award for the King's Speech. He won a BAFTA for Best Film, Best British Film. He won a BAFTA for

Top of the Lake, a television show. He was nominated for an Emmy for that. He won a Globe,

sorry, nominated for a Golden Globe for that, for a BAFTA as well.

The last time we was on the show, it was fascinating because he talks, it was not that long

after Will Smith did the slap. Remember the slap at the Academy Awards? And Emil was there.

So we went into some detail about that. That's an episode worth digging out and finding

and listening to. So I don't go into great detail in this episode about what it's like to be at the Oscars and what it feels like to win an Academy Award. But we do go into all of that

and how you even prepare an Academy Award acceptance speech and so on the last time that Emil

was on the show. So what he's doing now is he's got this podcast called The Sandbox, where he takes the creatives

who have created some of the biggest television shows and movies that he's produced.

And he sits down with them and he talks about their creative process.

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