OS Conversations: War and fatigue in Ukraine

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🗓️ 30 September 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Winter is approaching once again in the war and, for all the combat in the summer, the situation remains largely unchanged for both Ukrainian and Russian forces. There is talk that the conflict could go on for many years. President Volodymyr Zelensky is still firmly focused on victory for Ukraine but he admits that the mood among some of his international backers appears to be changing. But on the battlefields, what are the attitudes of Ukrainians? Host Lukwesa Burak speaks to two Ukrainian soldiers, journalists and families caught up in the conflict.

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0:00.0	LiveSless Ordinary is the podcast from the BBC World Service, bringing you
0:05.2	extraordinary personal stories from around the globe. Search for LiveSless
0:10.1	Ordinary wherever you get your BBC podcasts.
0:15.1	Hello, I'm LeQuester Buurak. Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World
0:20.4	Service. In BBC OS conversations, we bring people together to share their
0:25.7	experiences. This time, it's conversations on war and fatigue in Ukraine.
0:34.6	Despite months of fierce fighting and reports of large losses for both Ukraine and
0:39.5	Russia, the war grinds on with no sign of an end to the conflict. In this
0:45.0	edition, we're asking Ukrainians how they're coping and explore whether they're
0:49.7	still prepared to fight. Well, I know there are a lot of people who are trying to
0:54.1	escape conscription. Of course, it's sad, and I don't think it's a good example to
1:00.6	follow, but it's understandable. We'll catch up with fighters, their families, and
1:08.6	we also hear from war reporters. But before we get into our conversations, we
1:13.4	wanted to play you an extract from our OS show the other day. When we were
1:17.3	talking with our senior international correspondent, Olga Rin, who's recently
1:21.8	returned to Ukraine. Now, many Ukrainians feel this fight has to continue. It is an
1:27.4	existential struggle for them. It's a fight they haven't chosen. But there are
1:31.5	others who are looking at the cost and who are not personally willing to pay. I
1:35.9	think there are indications here that the Ukrainians are going to have to work
1:40.0	harder to keep filling the ranks in the army because the people who wanted to
1:44.6	volunteer, volunteered in massive numbers at the very beginning. And we were
1:48.5	here when that was happening. But it's now a year and a half on. Ukraine is
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