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Orwell & Huxley, Part 1 on Vyzygoth's Clubhouse. From the Vyzygoth Archives.

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William Ramsey Investigates

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🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Orwell & Huxley, Part 1 on Vyzygoth's Clubhouse. From the Vyzygoth Archives. 

Devotees of Orwell and Huxley have endlessly debated whether one would likely be more accurate than the other in his dark view of the future.
Some think that one's prescience was necessarily the abnegation of the other's.
In these audios, besides discussing the wrong approach with which these books were presented in high school, they are more like metaphors rather than credible forewarnings about the potential dangers looming in the future. The strong points are also advanced and treated as confirmation that Orwell and Huxley, jointly, were far more right than wrong.
But now that the days they envisioned are upon us, how much of their dim views have come and are coming to fruition? And are readers of both authors any more aware that their signature works were not fiction?

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0:00.0

As you've heard probably already, John Bonano, who's going to more or less be the standard bearer for Huxley, Aldous.

0:08.9

And we have from the other side of the country out in California, Gordon Comstock, who has been on a couple of times.

0:16.7

And not that John hasn't to speak to Huxley, but Gordon's obviously been on a bit more,

0:21.3

and he speaks to George Orwell.

0:25.9

Now, truthfully, this whole situation, as I look at it and I've thought about it the last couple of days,

0:32.7

there's a place for both of these, and maybe you guys are going to figure it out and tell us how this all fits,

0:38.1

because I think both warnings are probably either in session right now or soon to be.

0:45.4

But before anything else, I want to kick it off with this quote, and John will go to you first,

0:50.7

and then you, Gordon. And this is a quote from William Davies in the new statesman, August 2005.

0:57.3

Who we sometimes ask at the dinners and debates of the intelligentsia was the 20th century's

1:02.2

more insightful profit, Aldous Huxley or George Orwell.

1:05.8

Each is best known for his dystopian fantasy, Huxley's Brave New World, Orwell's 1984,

1:12.4

and both feared where modern technology might lead for authorities and individuals alike. But while Huxley anticipated

1:17.8

a world of empty pleasures and excessive convenience, Orwell predicted ubiquitous surveillance

1:23.5

and the eradication of freedom, who was right? I think there's probably a third choice

1:29.3

in here, too, but John, go ahead. Run with that if you would. Who is right? Well, it, you know,

1:35.5

it depends on how you look at it and where you live. If you live in North Korea, who do you

1:40.3

think you would say is right? Orwell. Orwell. If you live in the United States, who would you say is right or well or well if you live in the united states

1:45.9

who would you say is right uh... i could make an argument for both but i would

1:49.6

tell you because of the pleasure situation we're just going to use that as a

1:52.6

generalism

1:53.6

we're looking in that sense

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