Hey, good morning, everybody.

You know, it was kind of crazy just now as I opened the space.

The app completely rugged and I wasn't able to get back.

And so fortunately, I was able to just shut down the app and reconnect again.

Guys, thank you so much for joining.

And before, you know, before we start the interview, I just want to say hi to everybody and especially

and just let you know that I'm super, super excited to be doing this interview today with Timothy Gordon.

And I see you there, Timothy.

I just threw you on mic if you want to go ahead and

accept that and I am just kind of letting people pile in as I had to restart the app so let me see

so you just accept the mic and right and very good so essentially while Timothy is joining and since he's And we're good.

So essentially, while Timothy is joining, and since he's here,

I can actually give you all over and down about Tim's career and actually why we're actually doing this space in general.

So last Friday, my dear friend sitting next to me,

the lovely co-host, JMT,

had told me that he was watching this Culture Wars episode on Timcast.

And he said, gosh, you got to watch it.

So I did.

And I was really, I don't know, astonished by both the way in which, you know, Timothy brilliantly handled the space, but also just the way in which we see so many times when a person comes in good faith that is, you know, practicing Catholic apologetics. What does tend to happen, unfortunately, is that people, each side kind of gangs up on the person

that's representing the Catholic side.

And we, I think we've seen this multiple times in many of the spaces that we have done

where such a debate was attempted and unfortunately

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