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Jay'sAnalysis

Orthodox Trinitarian Apologetics with Jay Dyer / COTEL

Jay'sAnalysis

Jay Dyer

Arts, Education, Comedy, Performing Arts

4.6823 Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2021

⏱️ 126 minutes

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"In this stream I am joined by Jay Dyer to discuss the theology behind the necessity and validity of the God being Three persons with One essence. Make sure to check it out and let me know what you think." COTEL and I will discuss the Monarchy/Arche of the Father, the Ordo Theologiae, the nature/person distinction, the relations of origin, the eternal manifestation doctrine, the philosophy of the Trinity, the biblical proofs for the Trinity, and more!

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being 2,000 years later.

0:02.0

So really Genesis is the beginning of the doctrine of the Trinity.

0:06.0

And I think a lot of people, especially coming from the Protestant or evangelical world of stuff,

0:13.0

or the people who are anti-Trinitarian, they don't realize that our position is thoroughly and heavily grounded in the text of scripture itself.

0:20.0

It's not a doctrine that Constantine scripture itself. It's not a doctrine that

0:21.0

Constantine made up. It's not a doctrine that Paul made up like Muslims think. It's a biblical

0:25.9

doctrine. Absolutely. And that's one of the things that I've heard people who are rejecting

0:32.9

the Trinity keep referring back to the Old Testament and how a Jewish interpretations of theology as if somehow

0:41.7

they were understanding the true oneness of God and that these Christians and this Trinitarian

0:48.3

idea, this is something you don't really have to have you can do away with where the

0:53.0

scripture itself, it's replete with the references you cannot

0:55.7

be a Christian and not worship the Trinity i don't know what you are uh we can we can come up with different

1:01.0

heretical names to describe those theologies but you're not a Christian right absolutely and

1:07.2

and the best way to start is to perhaps talk about that God reveals himself to us as personal God, as a personal God, right?

1:16.7

Not as a force, not as something impersonal, which was very prominent in the ancient pagan world, right?

1:22.5

The gods of the pagans are these sort of polytheistic,istic forces of nature or they are abstracted forces in the mind of the Greeks.

1:33.8

And for us, it's a personal god that you have a relationship with, right?

1:37.0

You don't have a relationship with fire.

1:40.3

You don't have a relationship with the number seven or Pythagorean forms, but you can have a relationship with a personal God.

1:47.7

And the idea that humans are made in the image of God, again, also testifies to that notion of a personal God, which we'll get in Genesis 1.

1:55.3

So really, Trinitarian theology flows from Genesis. It flows from creation. It flows from right away we have what are called theophanies.

2:04.1

And theophanies are manifestations of God in time and space.

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