Oh, right. Welcome, listeners, to episode 105 of No Your Enemy. I'm Matt Sitman, your podcast co-hosts. I'm grateful for you and grateful for everyone who keeps

listening to us. And I'm sure listeners will be grateful for the different guest we have this

episode than our last one, perhaps. Yeah, be grateful. We head on my old friend, Luke Mayville,

who's the co-founder and executive director of Reclaim, Idaho, which is a grassroots organization in that very red state

that, among other things, as you'll hear, championed the ballot referendum for Medicaid expansion

in the state, and they won. So about 100,000 people in Idaho have health care because of Reclaim

Idaho. So that's Luke's main gig and why we wanted to talk to him.

But he and I go way back, and he is a fellow not perma ABD like me, but he actually

finishes PhD in political theory.

So that's how I initially knew Luke.

We were both political theorists.

Yeah, I was going to say, Luke could not be a more appropriate know-your-enemy guest,

not only because of his long friendship with you, but also because of your Catholic connection,

because of the political theory connection.

And then he's out in Idaho doing economically populist organizing in rural America.

The Venn diagram of all kinds of things we're interested in on this podcast.

Intersect at Luke Mayville.

Yes, that's true.

We were very glad to have Luke on.

And we don't really need to say too much more about this conversation other than, even

though we couldn't avoid talking about the election and having this turn into something

of a post-mortem, it's not exactly that,

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