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On the Media

Organizing Chaos

On the Media

WNYC Studios

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4.68.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

What happens when humans try to impose order...everywhere.

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0:00.0

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media.

0:04.1

I'm Brooke Gladstone.

0:05.5

From sorting to taxonomy, one scientist thought he was ordering the world.

0:11.0

But really, he was fostering more division.

0:14.1

There were eugenics fairs at small town festivals where there'd be competitions and there'd be the best babies or the fittest families.

0:22.0

It was so gross.

0:23.9

It was so gross.

0:25.4

You know what they say about the path to hell?

0:28.2

Also, how librarians are grappling with the legacy systems they use to organize the books on their shelves.

0:35.6

Books on Obama were in 300s. They were separated from books on their shelves. Books on Obama were in three hundreds.

0:39.0

They were separated from books on other presidents.

0:42.0

And that was very disturbing to me.

0:45.0

And that was the beginning of changing Dewey, of rebelling against Dewey.

0:49.5

The powers and perils of classification after this.

1:05.0

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone.

1:13.7

Humans as a species have a fascination with order. We like categories, lists, and rankings, and labeling them all. In fact, much of science is devoted to sorting the seeming chaos of the natural world.

1:21.3

Of course, sometimes we go too far or in the wrong direction by imposing an artificial order

1:26.3

based on irrelevant criteria or bias.

1:30.5

Last year, I spoke with Radio Lab co-host Lulu Miller, who was struggling to impose order on her

1:36.6

own life when she became obsessed with the 19th and 20th century taxonomist and natural historian

1:43.5

David Starr Jordan. Jordan himself was obsessed

1:48.0

with cataloging and ordering the world. A hundred years later, that passion earned him a starring

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