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I'm an entrepreneur, a bestselling author, and a Forbes most influential speaker.

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Hey guys and welcome back to big conversations. I'm super excited to be here with Molly McLaughlin.

She is part of the Big Exposure Facebook group and we connected because she knows how to optimize your sleep through tech and

behavioral changes and is basically the sleep guru, which I mean, how universal is that? So,

thanks for coming on, Molly. Thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure. I've actually

learned a lot from you and different resources that you provide. And so it's a, it's an honor to be on your show. Yay. It's an honor to have you.

So I thought we could get started by telling my guests a bit about how you got interested and

sleep as a business. And what propelled you to start, you know, your sleep coaching and

everything you do to help people with sleep. Of course. Yeah. So honestly, the, the origin story for sleep as a skill is simply that I was

struggling with my own sleep for, you know, the story of my sleep is, it was more long-lasting than I think

I was even aware of. And so what it looked like was that for many, many years throughout my life, I just thought

of myself as a bad sleeper.

I had like the label of, oh, I'm not a great sleeper, you know, but I did think it was that

big of a deal.

Also thought of myself as a night owl and, you know, just a little against the curve.

And that's just how it was. But no, no problems was how I

related to it. And it went on like that for a series of years, you know, entrepreneurship. And I could

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