I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of

the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present.

Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right

now.

Everyone in this theater has just finished watching all four hours of the film Leaving Neverland.

It's an audience of over 100 men and women here who say that they were sexually abused

as children surrounding them or supporters and family members and watching this documentary

was an intense and very emotional experience for many people here.

The two men who tell their stories in Leaving Neverland, Wade Rubsan and James Safechuck

are also here with me on stage as well as the director of the film, Dan Reed.

And so here's the reason why I'm here. In 25 years of the Oprah show, I taped 217 episodes

on sexual abuse. I tried and tried and tried to get the message across to people that

sexual abuse was not just abuse, it was also sexual seduction.

So after I saw Leaving Neverland for the first time, I called up Dan Reed, I didn't know

Dan Reed and told him, Dan, I said, you were able to illustrate in these four hours what

I tried to explain in 217. And I know people all over the world are going to be in an

uproar and debating whether or not Michael Jackson did these things or not, whether these

two men are lying or not lying. But for me, this moment transcends Michael Jackson. It

is much bigger than any one person. This is a moment in time that allows us to see this

societal corruption. It's like a scourge on humanity. And it's happening right now.

It's happening in families. We know it's happening in churches and in schools and sports

teams everywhere. So if it gets you, you are audience to see how it happens, then some

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