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Wall Street Breakfast

Opportunity is in energy, especially oil and gas - Chris DeMuth Jr.

Wall Street Breakfast

Seeking Alpha

Business News, News, Business, Investing

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2023

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Chris DeMuth Jr. talks about investing in 2023, the current state of the market (0:30) and why he likes the energy sector, especially oil and gas (4:40). This is an abridged conversation from Seeking Alpha's recent Investing Experts podcast.

Subscribe to Chris' investing group, Sifting The World

Show links:
Putting The G In ESG With GasLog
Chris DeMuth's State Of The Markets January 2023

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0:00.0

Great to have Chris DeMuth back on the podcast, Longtime Seeking Alpha writer.

0:04.8

He runs the Investing the World.

0:09.1

He runs the Hedge Fund Rangely Capital.

0:12.2

Any articles discussed today,

0:13.7

you can find links to them on our show notes.

0:16.4

And all episodes have transcripts available

0:18.9

on Seeking Alpha.

0:20.1

Chris DeMuth, welcome back to the show. It's always nice to talk to you. How are you thinking about the market? What are you thinking about as you're looking broadly speaking and you can narrow it down as you keep going?

0:31.6

Sure. Last year, 2022, so thinking about the calendar year, made a lot of sense to me,

0:41.3

to me, it was very cathartic, especially on the short side, especially looking at the kind of things that were preemptively getting crushed with the onset of reality, of real interest rates of a cost of capital.

0:57.2

You had this kind of weird suspended animation era where as long as there's no cost of capital kind of the more dramatic

1:06.6

the total addressable market the more of a story you have to say about what can

1:12.4

happen over the next 10 years has very little cost,

1:15.6

so you're just stuck with what is the most dramatic benefit that you can describe,

1:20.2

which is a kind of a childish and strange enterprise.

1:24.0

And then as interest rates rose, you have a real cost of capital,

1:27.0

and you can't just do that anymore.

1:29.0

And a lot of things that I thought looked probably worth less and certainly worth much less than

1:36.8

the weather trading did badly.

1:39.4

They kind of bounced back a lot this year.

1:41.3

It's been a hard one on the short side it's been a hard one for

1:44.7

skeptics and debunkers and value investors on the short side this month actually has

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