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One Thing: The Pentagon vs. AI Power Players: Did Anyone Win?

CNN 5 Things

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Daily News, News

3.7 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2026

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Anger directed at OpenAI is spreading after it struck a deal with the Pentagon to use its AI models in classified systems, just hours after its rival, Anthropic, refused. OpenAI said it had shared Anthropic’s concerns about mass surveillance and autonomous weapons, so why did they sign? And what does this mean for other companies looking to do business with the Trump administration?  For more: Some OpenAI staff are fuming about its Pentagon deal  ---  Guests: Hadas Gold, CNN AI Correspondent & Dean Ball, Senior Fellow at The Foundation for American Innovation  Host: David Rind  Producer: Paola Ortiz  Showrunner: Felicia Patinkin Photo: Photo: WH Pool Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome back to One Thing. I'm David Rind, and a messy fight over AI red lines in the military gets existential.

0:07.8

Are we just saying that you're not allowed to be a company that has political ideas that are different from the people in power?

0:14.0

Stick around.

0:15.0

This is from a video posted to the White House X account the other day.

0:27.6

It's a mix of war footage.

0:29.4

Some of it very real, American missile strikes on Iran, planes taking off, but some of it

0:34.6

is also apparently from the video game Call of Duty.

0:38.3

We're winning this fight.

0:41.3

Not everyone loved this mashup.

0:43.3

Critics said real people are dying in this war.

0:46.3

Multiple U.S. service members have been killed.

0:48.3

This is not a video game. It's no joke.

0:51.3

The outrage didn't seem to bother the White House, though.

0:53.3

Com's director Stephen Chung wrote in streamer slang, W's in the chat, boys. But it's worth asking, if that's

1:00.7

how the administration is selling the war on social media, how seriously are they taking

1:05.5

negotiations with potential defense contractors? So to start, AI companies have been working with the military for several years now.

1:12.6

This is Hadass Gold. She's CNN's AI correspondent.

1:16.6

And I wanted her to catch me up on a major story that's been playing out over the past few weeks.

1:20.6

It involves the Defense Department and some of the biggest AI companies in Silicon Valley.

1:25.6

And it could have major implications for

1:27.6

the future of American war fighting. Because like Hadass said, this AI technology is already

1:32.4

being used by the Pentagon. It reportedly played a role in both the January operation in

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