One Theory for Why Bolsonaro Is In Florida

The New Abnormal

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🗓️ 10 January 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Despite Jair Bolsonaro https://www.thedailybeast.com/jair-bolsonaro-flees-brazil-to-hide-out-in-home-of-mma-fighter-in-florida, the former Brazilian president is not there on vacation or to protest his election loss to the country’s new President Luiz Inácio Lula de Silva, says Ruth Ben-Ghiat, author of Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present. Ruth joined this episode of The New Abnormal podcast to talk to show co-host Danielle Moodie about the Brazilian insurrection, what makes people choose fascism instead of a healthy democracy, and why she is sure Bolsonaro’s trip to the States is nothing but a ploy to avoid legal consequences. Plus! Co-host Andy Levy is back and chats with journalist Jeb Lund, who tells him all about his alma mater New College of Florida and all the ways Gov. Ron DeSantis is trying to “destroy” it.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Andy Levy, former Fox News and CNN HLN Guy and current cable news conscientious
0:05.4	objector.
0:06.4	I'm a former libertarian who now sits pretty comfortably on the left.
0:09.4	Hi, I'm Danielle Moody, former educator and recovering lobbyist, but today I'm an
0:14.4	unapologetic woke commentator on America's threats to democracy.
0:18.6	And I produce her Jesse Cannon and I'm here to make sure things don't go too far off
0:22.0	the rails.
0:23.0	We're here to have fun, smart conversations with some of the most knowledgeable and entertaining
0:27.2	people in politics, media and beyond.
0:29.9	Our goal is to try and make sense of our current crazy world, our new abnormal, and hopefully
0:35.3	even make you laugh through the tears.
0:37.5	What an excellent show we have for you today.
0:39.5	First, we're going to be joined by Ruth Benjiat, the author of Strong Men from Mussolini
0:43.6	to the present.
0:44.6	And she's here today to talk to us about the riots in Brazil, Trump and the telltale
0:48.0	signs that you might be headed towards a dictatorship.
0:50.3	Then we're going to be joined by Jeb Lund, a journalist and the co-host of the Christmas
0:54.0	Town Podcast.
0:55.0	He is also an alumni of the new College of Florida, a liberal arts college out of Florida
0:59.3	that Rhonda Santas is growing way too interested in.
1:02.3	But first, let's have some fun.
1:04.1	Andy, my friend, happy new year and welcome back.
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