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The Lead with Jake Tapper

One-on-one with Cassidy Hutchinson

The Lead with Jake Tapper

CNN

News

3.51.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2023

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

As former President Trump is vying for another term in the White House, threatening to dismantle political norms, investigate his adversaries, and seek retribution for perceived slights, former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson joins for an extensive interview. She discusses why Trump should never be president again, why she came forward to testify, how seriously she takes Trump’s threats, if Trump would curtail freedom of the press, and much more. Plus, CNN is on the ground at the Mexican-Guatemalan border as migrant crossings along the US-Mexico border rise.  To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the lead, I'm Jake Tapper, as the nation continues to head into an election

0:09.4

where Donald Trump, as of now, seems likely to be the next Republican presidential nominee.

0:14.5

And according to polls, has a decent shot of beating President Joe Biden in November

0:19.5

of 2024, two pieces of news seem instructive.

0:24.8

Now, one you may have missed from last Friday.

0:27.6

When Mr. Trump took to his social media platform and responded to a profile of outgoing joint

0:33.7

chiefs of staff, General Mark Milley, in the Atlantic magazine called The Patriot,

0:38.8

describing the ways Milley tried to guide the nation through the chaotic and dangerous period,

0:43.9

surrounding Trump's loss to Biden in November 2020. This included when learning that the Chinese

0:50.2

military believed that Trump was going to order an attack against the Chinese and a phone call

0:55.6

authorized by the then acting Secretary of Defense, General Milley saw to reassure the Chinese

1:01.4

that no such attack was imminent. Trump took to Truth Social Friday and called Milley's action

1:07.8

quote, an act so egregious that in times gone by, the punishment would have been death, unquote.

1:17.9

Death. That's right. Former President of the United States, who well

1:23.4

may be the next President of the United States, suggesting in no uncertain terms

1:29.5

that America's highest-ranking military official, a veteran of multiple combat tours in Afghanistan

1:38.0

and in Iraq, deserves to be executed. A man whose followers have a troubling habit of

1:45.1

flooding his perceived enemies with death threats. That happened. The second piece of news comes

1:52.5

from the former top aide to Mark Meadows, Trump's last White House chief of staff, Cassidy Hutchinson,

1:58.4

the star witness in last summer's January 6th committee's hearing, her new book Enough

2:05.0

Published Today. In the book, Hutchinson paints a picture of the closing days of the Trump White

2:12.8

House even more chaotic, even more lawless than described in her shocking testimony. For example,

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