Hello, friends in the podcast universe. It's Anne here. And this hour, we are going to be mixing together two things you're not supposed to talk about over dinner. Religion and politics. Specifically, evangelical Christianity and former President Donald Trump. Last time around, he won 84% of the white evangelical vote.

Lately, he's been leaning even more deeply into the rhetoric of Christian nationalists.

So who are they? And what's their role in the evangelical church? We'll be talking with some

Southern Baptists today whose views may actually surprise you. They surprised me.

So yes, religion and politics are on the table, but don't worry, this is going to be nothing like your annoying Uncle at Thanksgiving. Stay tuned. how great makes thou watch.

Wisconsin Public Radio.

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Capital. I'm Anne Strain Champs. Capital. ...Corp. January 6th was an unprecedented day of political violence for the United States, but can

it happen again?

How do we make sense of the apocalyptic rhetoric of Christian nationalism that inspired so many of the insurrectionists?

These skylights are, do you like those close?

No, that's fine.

Well, let's make some coffee and meet a journalist who's been tracking the fusion of Christianity and right-wing politics.

My name's Jeff Charlotte. I'm sitting here with a cop. Christianity and right-wing politics.

My name's Jeff Charlotte. I'm sitting here with a copy of my most recent book, The Undertoe,

Scenes from a Slow Civil War,

sitting here in my dining room,

sitting here in this kind of lovely blue bubble of Vermont,

although not as much of a bubble as people...

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