DePaul's Chris Holtman joins us. I did not interview you on the podcast last year in

year one. I think that was actually Holtman's demand.

And so now for his writer, he must be interviewed on the pod. It's great to see you, man. Yeah, you too. How are you feeling about the group, man? Good, yeah. What's standing out so far in the first, you know, four, six weeks of preseason? You know how it is, man. everybody's optimistic this time of year.

Tell me you're going to go 10 deep right now.

I'm waiting for another coach.

10 deep, is this going to be the deal?

Check back in January. season. You know how it is, Matt. Everybody's optimistic this time of year. Yeah. Tell me you're going to go 10 deep right now.

I'm waiting for another coach.

Ten deep.

Is this going to be the deal?

Yes.

Check back in January.

Exactly.

Maybe like seven or eight. I know. I got coaches swearing they're going 10 deep. I think Willard told me he's going 11. And so I'm holding him to that.

He might actually.

Yeah, we'll see.

He might.

But, you know, coach, yeah, coaches say that early.

And then, you know, they hear these sayings like Pat Riley, you should say,

trust eight or play seven, play eight, trust seven. Yes. It gets shortened. But we will play a probably a nine or a ten-man rotation to start. I don't know if it will look like that in January, though. CJ Guns, the one guy that got preseason accolates here on media day. What have you seen? And are you expecting them to be your most impactful player? Yeah, I think when you look at our roster, one, I'm happy for CJ because that's, that's been something he's earned through a couple tough years at Indiana, where he was in and out of the lineup, a young process for a kid.

And then he had a good year last year for us.

I think for him, we have three returning players at all start a games for us, Matt.

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