One Man Flees Putin’s Draft: An Update

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🗓️ 30 December 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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This week, The Daily is revisiting some of our favorite episodes of the year and checking in on what has happened in the time since they first ran. Kirill, 24, worked at a nonprofit for homeless people in the Moscow region. He does not support the policies of President Vladimir V. Putin and is vehemently against the invasion of Ukraine. After suffering setbacks in the war, Mr. Putin announced a military draft in September. Kirill was among those called up. In September, Sabrina Tavernise spoke to Kirill who was hiding to avoid being served his papers. Since then, Kirill decided to flee Russia to avoid the draft. Today, Sabrina Tavernise checks in with Kirill about what’s happened since he left his country.

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Sabrina.
0:02.7	This week, the Daily is revisiting some of our favorite episodes of the year, and hearing
0:07.4	what's happened in the time since they first ran.
0:10.2	Today, we return to one man's choice to flee Russia, rather than being part of Vladimir Putin's
0:17.0	draft, and find out what's happened since he left the country.
0:20.6	It's Friday, December 30th.
0:24.5	Okay, tell me your name, your, just your first name, because I know the sensitivities,
0:35.7	your age, and where you live.
0:37.7	My name is Kirill, I'm 24, and I live in Moscow, Oblast.
0:47.0	So Kirill, going back to the beginning of the war, when Putin first ordered the invasion
0:54.3	of Ukraine on February 24th.
0:57.7	Take me back to that moment in your life.
1:00.8	What did you think when you saw that?
1:05.8	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:07.8	On the 24th, I woke up not very early, kind of like usual.
1:12.0	Around 11 o'clock in the morning.
1:16.1	My friend in the morning said that war had begun.
1:20.3	If I'm being honest with you, I don't actually remember that day very much, because I didn't
1:23.4	fully understand and comprehend the magnitude of what had happened, and how horrible it would
1:30.1	all be.
1:31.1	I remember that I went home that day and began talking to my parents.
1:45.7	I didn't really want to talk about it with my parents, because I don't talk about political
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