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The Untold Story with Martha MacCallum

One Full Week Of Pope Leo XIV

The Untold Story with Martha MacCallum

FOX News Radio

News

4.1738 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Last week, the world watched as a new Pope was announced. The chosen man is American, Pope Leo XIV. Theologian and FOX News Contributor Jonathan Morris describes what the Conclave voting process may have looked like for the Cardinals. He explains that although Pope Leo XIV is American and may not have been a front runner during the process, he has the humility, intellect, and clarity to represent the Catholic Church.  Martha and Jonathan discuss why Pope Leo XIV didn't portray himself as overly American in his announcement. They also share some of the Pope's opening messages to the world, including peace for the Middle East conflicts and between Russia and Ukraine.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:43.4

Welcome to The Untold Story Podcast, everyone.

0:44.7

I'm Martha McCallum.

0:46.0

Great to have you with us. And I'm excited today to be joined by Jonathan Morris.

0:50.1

Once again, news analyst, New York Times bestselling author, Fox News contributor.

0:55.6

Jonathan and I were covering the funeral of Pope Francis together just a couple of weeks ago in Rome,

1:00.7

and then he stayed on through the conclave, which has been a fascinating historic time to watch.

1:07.7

So I just wanted to invite him here to kind of catch up on where things have gone

1:12.3

since this historic announcement of Pope Leo, the 14th, who is the first American Pope. So with that,

1:21.6

welcome, Jonathan. Great to have you here. It's even amazing just to hear those words,

1:26.6

the first American pope, right, five, six weeks ago.

1:29.4

It sounds like a movie.

1:30.6

I think there was a movie called the American Pope, and we all said, ha, ha, ha, that will never happen.

1:35.7

So give me our reflections on, first of all, let's go back, you know.

1:39.7

What do you think happened in the conclave to produce such a surprise?

1:46.6

It's a surprise, and at the the same time there's always a surprise in these conclaves. And I think it in part of it, in part it's because it's so

1:52.8

simple. There's only, in this case, there were 133 cardinals that had a head of vote. That's not

1:59.3

very many. And you have to get to two-thirds. And so just the way

2:03.2

the numbers work out, the mathematics of it all, you have to make coalitions. And you have to say,

2:09.5

even though this guy is my preferred guy, that's not going to work out. So I have to figure out

2:15.4

who else I can be with in terms of coming to a,

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