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savoury, because the sausage, you know, and the cheese and the egg. Oh, it's got the golden

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You're listening to episode 240 of TV's Top 5, the Hollywood Reporter's TV podcast.

I'm Leslie Goldberg, the West Coast TV editor, and I'm joined, as always, by the great Dan Feinberg,

the Hollywood Reporter's Chief TV critic. How's it going, Chief?

It goes okay, getting my menorah and my candles all in a row for the

start of Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah to those who observe. And happy Hanukkah to you as well, my friend.

Thank you. Definitely, this is a podcast in which we are both celebrating and being mournful or

mourning. Kind of a mix of emotions on this particular podcast.

Yeah, and it also happens to be TV's top five turns five in this episode.

This is the fifth birthday of our dear podcast here.

Indeed, that was part of what I was figuring we were celebrating.

In addition to Hanukkah, there's very little actual Hanukkah content on this podcast, whereas there is some fifth in.

It is true.

Yes, I've given a token acknowledgement to Hanukkah, and now we can move on.

So yes, absolutely very much like Hallmark.

Yes, as you say, we had our first podcast episode on December 7th, 2018.

Somebody happened to mention this on Elon Musk's white supremacist social media platform.

So thank you for letting us know.

Otherwise, we would probably not have necessarily remembered that time passed in any particular

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