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The Big Picture

‘One Battle After Another’: A Second Opinion With Van Lathan

The Big Picture

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.35.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

On a very special bonus episode of the podcast, Van Lathan joins the show and gets the chance to share his perspective on the box office debate for ‘One Battle After Another’, share his overall thoughts on the film, and comment on its portrayal and depiction of Black women. Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Van Lathan Producer: Jack Sanders Unlock an extra $250 at linkedin.com/thebigpicture Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Sean Fennacy and this is the big picture. You are getting a very special conversation episode.

0:14.9

We were making an episode earlier this week about the smashing machine. Van Lathen was here,

0:19.4

Amanda was here, and we were excited to talk about that movie. But we were also excited to talk because Van and I have been having private conversations over the last two weeks or so about one battle after another. What does one battle after another mean? What does it mean to the box office? What does it mean to culture at large? What does it mean about representation? And we got off, as we often do when Van is on the show on a long tangent and a deep,

0:40.5

I thought very thoughtful exploration of a lot of the ideas that are packed inside the movie

0:44.3

and externally in the film-going culture right now.

0:47.6

So we've decided to just make this its own episode.

0:51.0

Van is always a very special guest, but this was a uniquely fun and deep conversation that the three of us were able to have.

0:57.0

So I hope you will enjoy it. I hope you will receive it in good faith. I hope you will understand that we're trying to explore something that is sometimes very complicated and dicey, representation wise, intellectually, emotionally, and especially for me, for a movie that I care

1:12.2

about so, so, so deeply. So I hope you enjoy this deep excursion into the internal and external

1:18.9

worlds of one battle after another with Van Lathen.

1:22.7

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