On White Flight and "Whataboutism"
City Journal Audio
Manhattan Institute
4.7 • 657 Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2021
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
William Voegeli joins Brian Anderson to discuss the subjects of his two recent stories for City Journal the history of the mid-century exodus of whites out of cities, known as "white flight," and political reactions to the January 6 Capitol riot.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the Ten Blocks Podcast. This is Brian Anderson, the editor of City Journal. Joining me on today's |
| 0:22.2 | show is William Vogley. Bill is a senior editor of the Claremont Review of Books and the author of |
| 0:27.8 | two books himself, Never Enough, America's Limitless Welfare State, and the Pity Party, a mean-spirited |
| 0:36.9 | diatribe against liberal compassion. He's contributed essays to |
| 0:41.4 | City Journal for over a decade now, and we're glad he can join us on the podcast. His latest |
| 0:46.3 | piece for the magazine, which appears in our autumn 2020 issue, is called The Truth About |
| 0:53.1 | White Flight. Bill also wrote a piece for us in the aftermath |
| 0:57.0 | of the events of last week in Capitol Hill, or a couple of weeks ago now, actually, called |
| 1:02.2 | About What Aboutism? It's a brilliant piece. I encourage you to check it out, and we'll be |
| 1:07.2 | sure to talk about it here a bit on the podcast. Bill, thanks very much for |
| 1:12.5 | joining us and always good to talk with you. Good to be with you, Brian. Your piece from the |
| 1:18.5 | magazine, the Truth About White Flight essay, begins with former First Lady Michelle Obama, |
| 1:25.8 | who had published a best-selling memoir a couple of years ago. |
| 1:29.3 | Mrs. Obama, who was born, Michelle Robinson, grew up on the South Shore of Chicago in a |
| 1:35.7 | neighborhood that came to typify the urban white flight experience. In 1950, the South Shore was basically 95, 96% white. Over just a few |
| 1:49.9 | decades, the demographics completely flipped, and the neighborhood was 96% black by the time |
| 1:56.7 | the early 80s rolled around. Now, according to the former First Lady, and this is a common charge by progressives as well, |
| 2:07.1 | the motivation behind this demographic shift, this white flight from cities, was clear or is |
| 2:15.5 | clear and obvious that racism was behind the relocation, |
| 2:20.5 | leaving behind devastated black communities and taking a lot of the funding and money |
| 2:26.9 | that circulated in these neighborhoods to the suburbs. |
| 2:31.5 | Your piece says that that doesn't really reflect the entire story and it's too simple |
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