Hi, and welcome to Finding Your Way Through Therapy.

I'm your host, DBSom.

No intro again, just me talking.

And this is the six day of Christmas we're halfway there.

And I chose someone who, again, I really liked her interview.

I just like her as a human being.

I met her in San Diego at a podcast meeting for a lack of a better word.

And Crystal Partney is someone who is very authentic and really talked about the loss

of her sister with loss means I've had a lot of loss in my personal life, and obviously

when my professional life too.

So here in Crystal, talk about her sister.

She has her own podcast.

Please go listen to it.

I'll link it in the show notes.

But Crystal Partney is such a wonderful human being.

I really enjoyed her and I hear it's Crystal.

A guest on Steve's podcast was absolutely incredible.

I loved the idea that you are literally sitting down and you're talking to someone that

feels like you've known your whole life.

But oh, by the way, who happens to also be a therapist.

And he completely removes any of the stigma that you might feel or that you might have

experienced in the past when you are talking to a therapist, he makes the conversation

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