Well, he doesn't cover specifically the Oklahoma City Thunder anymore, but it wouldn't be the dunked on pre-views if we weren't starting with the man himself Fred Katz, and we're hoping that you still have enough latent thunder knowledge to fake your way through this cat.

Look, I'm just here because I want to show my hearty, hearty support for you doing live reads about underwear.

That's all I want, that's all I want out of this, and I just want to make sure that can continue for as long as possible.

So as long as I can contribute to the success of this podcast, it makes me happy, because I know that I'm going to hear you say the word me undies, and I'll be really happy about it.

Well, yeah, I mean, are you just jealous that you don't have an underwear sponsor yet for your show?

I need a little under the word sponsor. I'm starting to get a really bad spot.

Well, I mean, I'm just really glad that the copy doesn't require me to discuss anything about packaging, or there's some other underwear companies that actually you have to get into that as the podcaster struggle for euphemism, because this isn't one of those comedy podcasts that much is it.

It's not. It does, it does purport to people.

Yeah, that's why we really, I mean, just no substance at all, just bullshitting about, you know, stuff that's not even halfway related to the NBA is basically what we do.

But having Fred on does up the comedy quotient does up the New York to quotient, which I'm allowed to actually, I'm allowed to actually make that joke, because I'm half Jewish.

I feel 50% of you. Yeah, because I mean, with the last name like Duncan, people might just think I was being anti-Semitic.

If I make like Jewish jokes, when in reality, like, no, I've got that tough one.

In reality, you're just being self-loathing. Yeah, yeah. And there's there's a very important. And like my mom actually is Jewish. I didn't like just convert to Judaism for the jokes or anything like that.

So good solid.

So we are going to talk some thunder here. And then also Fred is maybe the greatest aficionado of summer league of anyone that I know.

I wanted to discuss with him our all time summer league All Stars, which will actually be it's not going to be the best players in summer league, but it's just going to be the people who most typify the summer league experience who, you know, may have had little to no NBA future or impact whatsoever outside of the summer league.

I mean, you were about the thunder and you were there last year. The biggest thing to discuss obviously Carmelo Anthony is no longer on this team. They got Dennis shooter instead. But just in general, I mean, certainly during the playoffs, we were very critical of Anthony.

Do you feel that this is just even if they didn't replace him with anybody that it would be a case of addition by subtraction, and he actually contribute more than people realize last year.

I'm kind of leaning more towards the former mostly just because this team is really going to be graded. I think there are times where he can still win you regular season games when things are going right.

He had games last year when he hit seven threes and when he does that, he's a positive. He's not necessarily a positive across across the board across regular season, but season, but if he's willing to accept a role that's proper for him, even if he's willing to do that, I just don't think that he moves the bar at all in the post season.

I actually take the back. He moves the bar in the post season, just not in the way that I think the thunder would have wanted the jazz targeted him like crazy and pick and rolls. I forget what the number was and I forget where I read it. It was either Zach Low article or Chris Herring or something like that.

We're on plays that finished with a jazz guard or wing going against Carmelo Anthony in one-on-one situations after switches Utah average like more than 1.2 points per session, which is like ridiculous.

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