All right, welcome to O-K Computer. I am Dan Nathan. I am joined by Rick Heitzman, the founder and CEO of First Mark Capital. Hi, Rick.

Hey, Dan. How are you? I'm good. We are in studio here. And we are on Election Eve. It is Tuesday afternoon. We have a ton of stuff to talk about today. Okay, there's tons of stuff going on. Public markets, crypto, private markets,

a whole host of things here. I have a great conversation with Jake Wood, the CEO founder of

Groundswell, also the founder of Team Rubicon, which is an amazing organization. We're going to talk

all about that with Joe Markezi, the build partner at Human Ventures. Okay, so stick around.

That's coming up after Rick and I go through just, we're going to go through a lot here,

people.

We're going to talk about Elon, Twitter, Tesla, the interrelations of that.

We're going to talk about SBF, FTX, Binance, BTC, the whole shebang.

But Rick, here we are. By the time our listener is taking

all this beautiful content in, there's going to be a pretty clear indication of how the

midterm elections went, okay? And obviously, a lot of people feel like the Dems are going

to lose the House and the Senate. It's not that weird of occurrence in a midterm election,

first term president. I'm just curious, let's

assume that that does happen. There's a lot of data that suggests in public markets that

that's good for the stock market. People like divided government. How is that played out in your

20 plus years as a VC? What does it do for private markets? I think it's the same for both the public markets and

private markets that divided House, divided executive branch and legislative branch means not much

gets done. And as we know, and as we saw the opposite in the world of Trump, that having

rules of the road and having some consistency and knowing what's going to happen

matters a lot.

So knowing that not much is going to happen, and you're pretty certain of that, provides at

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