Back at the Scouting Combine and, oh boy.

Yeah, big ballers right here. Just, you know. This is one of those that's like, why is he coming on with us knuckleheads? I appreciate for yourself. Yeah. Caleb Downs. Glad to be here. Thank you guys for having. Projected to be a top five pick in the draft. How's that sound to you when you hear your name top five pick in the draft i

mean i can't control that at the end of the day so uh it is what it is i'm just thankful to be in the

situation that i am and appreciative of it what um i mean brother in the nfl right dad played in the

nfl yeah dad missed my dad by one year right right? Did you know that? The New York Giants, right? One year, your dad, 95. I remember your dad. I had to look it up a little while ago and go, wait, I kind of remember him, but I saw 34 downs. I was like, damn, I remember him. So, I mean, football just all the way growing up? Yeah, it was a, no, we played every sport. Like, played soccer, played track, basketball and baseball. And it did everything. Honestly, I didn't, that wasn't my first choice to play football. My brother was my bully growing up. So it was kind of, I don't want to be like him at all. He played football, and I was like, I don't want to do that.

But it turned out to be a natural thing for me, and I'm appreciative of it. Hey, you got a podcast with your brother now. Josh, Colts receiver, downs to business. How long have you been doing that? This was the first year of it, honestly. It's been great. great opportunity to talk to Josh every week for a scheduled two-hour call.

Yeah. I mean, I'm appreciative of it. Our relationship has grown a lot. And, yeah, it's great. Josh bullied you? Yeah, I mean, he was three years old with me as a kid. He used to rage bait me. Josh is a troll, if you will. I like it. He tells a lot of jokes and stuff, so as a kid, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, you can tell him now, hey, you know, you go over the middle now. We'll see who bullies who when it comes around this time. So we're waiting for. At what age did it occur to you? You know what? I can take him now if I had to.

It never really, that never really came up. It was just, it just stopped, honestly.

It just stopped. So he decided to stop before you figured out. Yeah, yeah. He was windowed. He just stopped. And then the relationship became a lot better when he, when he got to, after we played each other, my freshman year, he was a senior.

We played against each other in high school.

Gotcha.

When he got to college, our relationship grew a lot, honestly.

Yeah, yeah.

What drew you to the defensive side of the ball?

My dad was a running back, and I played running back all through Little League, and he was like, you're not doing what I'm doing. So he was like, you're going to have a lot more longevity playing defense, and he felt like he could have played safety as well. There have been running backs, Caleb, who have said that. I remember Ben Tate, who was a running back in the NFL 20, 15 years ago. If I'd do it all over again, I'd have been running backs, Caleb, who have said that. I remember Ben Tate, who was a running back in the NFL, 15 years ago. If I'd have to do it all over again, I'd have been a safety. You get more longevity, you can make more money. You know, there's a greater need for an elite safety in the NFL than there is for an elite running back. It's just the business. And you have his great advice from your dad to go that direction. Yeah. Yeah, he made that decision and it's worked out. Yeah, no, it's more than working out. I mean, it's working out in the fact of, like, hey, I'm going to quiz you on this, all right? Because you're right now considered the top five pick. Safeties don't get picked in the top five almost never. Three times in the history of the NFL draft right I moved the screen so you

couldn't cheat and look either all right do you know any of them that ever top five um

Eric Barry yeah Bing boom small Adams no no no Adams is just out he was six right but still

a good I like your knowledge is Ericic weddle no no but you're

going to be mad you miss this one there's one that you're going to go damn i can't believe i forgot

that one he he rip freak of nature safety Miami University Washington

yeah right yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes, yes, yes, yes. The other one is Eric Turner back from 1999.

Yes.

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