Let's podcast alongside Joe Jillio.

I'm Joe Oviah's inside Eifford Studios in downtown Raleigh.

Thanks to Empire Properties.

And thanks to Copiers Plus, check them out online at copiers dash plus.com. On today's show,

in fact, in the mere moments we're about to get into this, you're going to hear a lot about value.

You know, what's good for your franchise? What's the best in terms of value to succeed? Well,

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You know, typically we have like an opening segment.

We shoot the sheds for a bit.

We have large topics to get to.

But you know what?

We ain't rolling like that today.

Let's just get right to it with the Carolina Panthers,

pissing everybody off with their trade of dionte johnson shall we

and joining us on the heaster automotive route line to talk about said trade it is mike k

of the charlotte observer who covers the panthers mike what's going on man well they

you know the panthers certainly didn't get a copier's plus value for that trade, uh, yesterday. And I think,

I, I think Tuesdays are typically supposed to be my chiller days, but I think I worked from like

8 a.m. to like 10 at p.m. last night.

So fun.

Yeah, fun.

There's a lot of layers to this onion to peel back.

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