Let's podcast.

We are not inside Eifford Studios, but we always thank our friends at Empire Properties.

We are in Charlotte for ACC tip-off.

Joe, I feel like we were just here for

ACC-C-kick-off. What is time? A flat circle, sir. And honestly, I can't believe I'm

saying this. And don't tell Josh Graham from WS.js for sitting right next to us. It couldn't have

come at a better time. ACC tip off if you think about it.

Yeah, given the weekend that was in ACC football,

you know, the distraction of a Cooper flag,

the distraction of an R.J. Davis back for Carolina.

NC State being completing the alpha and the Omega,

avoiding the first ACC tournament and now the

last so uh hope springs eternal when it comes to basketball and it's good to see some of the new

faces here too i mean i geeked out uh at meeting kyle smith you did i even had to explain to him like a bond

villain hey man i don't know how squeamish you are with gambling talk, but you won me a bunch of fucking money when you were the coach at Columbia.

And to this day, I still owe you a little bit of a gratitude.

And hold on, hold on, hold on.

I want to make this clear.

This is when they were in the CIT?

No, this was the, like he was, he was underselling it.

They were awesome. Okay. You got to remember, Columbia is never good in anything. Has never been

athletically. It's never been in anything. That's true. That's true. That's true. And that year,

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