Let's podcast alongside Joe Jillio.

I'm Joe Ovias inside Eifford Studios in downtown Raleigh, thanks to Empire Properties.

And of course, thanks to Copiers Plus.

Check them out online at copiers dash plus.com.

Print management, document management.

Jilio is on the cloud now, but you can't take the old printman out of Jillio.

Yellow pad is officially back, baby.

I bought four of them.

Should last me the whole season.

Okay. Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. I bought a trapper. Should last me the whole season. Okay.

Yeah. Good for you. Yeah. I bought a trapper keeper. Welcome to school. You know, the boys had that in elementary school one or two years and then I thought they would like it. They didn't like it? No, they get their organizational skills from me. Oh, okay. So they got stuff. You know how that goes. Look, I'd like to tell us to people, if you ever wanted to get a sense of how Joe is versus how I am, just look at our walls on our respective screen. Our backgrounds. Okay. Mine's a little more organized. Slightly more organized. Slightly. Okay. Slightly. No, but we're getting organized now. We need to get Jonathan Randall wall in here just to really get the...

Oh, that's just empty fast food boxes on the floor.

That's what that is.

The real contrast.

Look, man, I was...

I forgot who I was talking to about this, about old dorm room habits and just cleanliness and just guys being dudes, dudes being guys type situation.

And there was a guy that I went to high school with the Cardinal Gibbons.

His name was Matt Casey.

And there was a guy that I went to high school in Florida who randomly ended up going to NC State. Like I didn't know this. I lost touch with him. Guy's name was James. And next thing you know, I'm on campus. And I see this dude that I went to Boka High with. I'm like, what? What are you doing here? Right. So he explained, yeah, I'm here for textiles. You know, he ended up going to work for some large company or whatever it is. Clearly from Florida. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's textiles in North Carolina. You're correct. So anyway, I put James and Matt together. Like, hey, here's a guy that I know. Here's a guy that I know. You guys are looking for roommates.

It's cool.

They lived in Syme.

Okay.

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