Oh, you're a Lenej girl? Well, I don't know. I bought it recently, but I like it. What do you think? You're not into it? Do you think it makes your lips drier? Kind of. Really? It's like one of those that has like an addictive. Yeah. Yeah. I got to be honest. So what's your, you beauty plasma? Oh, I like that too. Yeah, it's good. At least this tastes good, though.

It does taste good.

Because you end up eating. I got to be honest. So what's your You beauty plasma? Oh, I like that too. Yeah, it's good. But at least

this tastes good though. It does taste good. Because you end up eating half of it. You eat half of it. Of course. I like a soft open so we can just start talking right now. I'll do anything you told me to. Sarah Hoover. Welcome to Office Hours. Thank you, Dinks. I'm so happy to be here. Amazing writer, art historian,

coolest girl that I know. I can't believe that you're on the pot. I'm so excited.

You're here because you wrote a book, The Motherload, episodes from the brink of motherhood,

and it's a memoir, and it's coming out in January. And when I tell you this book,

always in the comments, people are like, to shut up and let your, your guest talk. It's not

about you. But this is about me, actually. Because when I read this book, I cried many times.

I laughed. But my overwhelming feeling was, I knew it. I knew it. Like I have never

heard someone talk about motherhood the way that I instinctively know that I would experience it.

And when I read it, it was like, it was so raw and beautiful and emotional and real. I just felt seen even though I'm not a mother, if that makes sense.

It rocked me to my core.

I can't believe that you lived it and that you were able to articulate it so beautifully.

And I just, I can't wait to talk about it.'s so nice of you thank you it's so nerve-wracking

like my book is out in the world my baby people are reading it yeah and you never know how

someone's gonna respond to something that's like it is so personal it's only my experience and

I tried really hard not to speak on the behalf of anyone else because there are people who have

really different reactions to motherhood. But I had the feeling there were other people like me.

And it's interesting you say that because I want to start there. So you said you only want to

write from your experience. There are so many different experiences of motherhood, although up until

what I would consider a few years ago, we haven't really been privy to any other narratives about

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