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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

October 2025: Jen Hatmaker's ‘Awake’

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Description: Tune in for this very special #JenHatmakerBookClub episode where Jen gives unprecedented access to look behind the scenes at her own writing process and collaboration that went into the publishing of “Awake”. For today’s conversation, Jen sits down with Vice President and Editorial Director for Avid Reader Press, Lauren Wein, to delve into the journey of bringing Jen's book "Awake" to the page and all the way to the New York Times bestseller list. Jen discusses the profound impact of trusting your own intuition in your writing along with the challenges in memoir-writing of prioritizing authenticity and vulnerability while honoring the privacy for those involved. Lauren pulls back the curtain on the collaborative nature of the editing process, describing the satisfaction she finds with helping authors find their voice. And Jen shares the one truth she hopes every reader of “Awake” walks away with. Anyone who is interested in writing, or the behind-the-scenes or book-making will enjoy this episode.  Whether you're a writer or a reader, this conversation offers a unique glimpse into the creative process and the power of storytelling. Thought-provoking Quotes: “One of the things that Awake is about is learning to trust yourself and trusting your body. I feel like that is how I edit. It's like a tuning fork. I sense when something is like, need more or need less. It's physical.” – Lauren Wein “Every story deserves authenticity.” – Jen Hatmaker “In the war of ‘you versus you’, nobody wins, because you're very hard on yourself. You have a very critical inner voice. When you hear somebody tell you something that you maybe sensed about yourself but you didn't quite know, it ignites something, it confirms something that maybe you sensed was there but the voice was too small because the other voices were just louder.” – Lauren Wein “Finding your voice is a journey.” – Lauren Wein “When this book was first announced, it was erroneously referred to as a tell-all, which was upsetting to all of us because that is absolutely not what it is. What was very important to you (Jen) was honesty, not telling it all, but being truthful and respecting other people's privacy. Now that is the hardest line to walk when you're writing your own story because your own story is not your own story entirely.” – Lauren Wein "Trust your intuition in creative work." – Jen Hatmaker Resources Mentioned in This Episode: For the parents who are slogging through May – https://jenhatmaker.com/blog/for-the-parents-who-are-slogging-through-may/ Margaret Riley King - https://www.wmebookdepartment.com/team/margaret-riley-king/ Maybe You Should Talk to Someone: A Therapist, HER Therapist, and Our Lives Revealed by Lori Gottleib - https://amzn.to/4pUADj8 Wild Game: My Mother, Her Secret, and Me by Adrienne Brodeur - https://amzn.to/4nywiRc Becoming Duchess Goldblatt by Anonymous - https://amzn.to/4o6rHpt Awake by Jen Hatmaker audiobook - https://amzn.to/4gU7v7P Lights on a Similar Path: ‘Awake’ Readers Reflect On Finding Their Way - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/series-64/lights-on-a-similar-path-awake-readers-reflect-on-finding-their-way/ Guest’s Links: Website - https://editors.simonandschuster.com/editor/wein-lauren/ Twitter - https://x.com/desideratasaur Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/lauren.wein.1/ Connect with Jen!Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmakerJen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/ Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmakerJen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

All right, you guys, today's conversation is super special.

0:14.4

I feel like I am sharing one of the most precious people with you and most important parts of this story.

0:25.7

The singular person who knows awake as deeply, thoroughly and intimately as I do.

0:38.3

I am bringing you today a conversation with my editor, Lauren Wine.

0:46.2

And she's not just my editor.

0:50.4

She has been my collaborator.

0:52.8

She was my sounding board.

1:19.1

She was my counselor all along the way. She was my advisor, my mentor, my guide. She's got an incredible gift. Her editing skills are so profound. And she's helped so many authors write the best version of their story, whatever it is.

1:21.8

And that certainly includes me with Awake.

1:34.4

She sat with me through every draft, every change, every doubt, every fear, every single, every moment of the of this story, of the writing of this story, she has had her fingerprint on. It just, it wouldn't

1:41.8

exist in the way that it exists without her. And so I can't wait for you

1:47.4

to hear her today. God, this conversation is so great. Anybody who's interested at all in writing,

1:52.5

you're going to also find this interesting because we kind of, we get into the sauce a little bit,

1:56.7

like what's it like behind the curtain? So you're going to, you're going to hear some like shop

2:00.3

talk a little bit, but also we're going to talk about what it it like behind the curtain? So you're going to hear some like shop talk a little bit,

2:01.2

but also we're going to talk about what it was like to have this partnership together.

2:06.5

And so I'm delighted to welcome my brilliant editor and of course now my forever friend,

2:15.0

Lauren to the show.

2:23.1

Thank you. my forever friend, Lauren to the show. Hello.

2:24.8

I'm so delighted to put you on this show with me.

2:31.8

You're normally behind the scenes. That's the kind of nature of your work. And I'm

2:38.1

like, how about you get yourself on video? And let's put this podcast out to 100,000 people.

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