I'm Farai Chidea, and this is Our Body Politic Extras, where we get to share with you the extended versions of some of our best conversations.

Let's dive into this edition of OBP extras.

Each week on the show, we bring you a roundtable called Sip in the Political Tea. And this week, foreign policy extras. Each week on the show, we bring you a roundtable called Sipin the Political Tea. And this

week, foreign policy expert and host of YouTube show, Oh My World, Hagar Shemali, is back to

lead our conversation. We're talking about the rise in populist nationalism in Brazil and

across the world. Take it away, Hagar. Thanks for a right. It's great to be here.

Joining me this week is Bumi Akinu Soto, who's a foreign policy enthusiast and creator of the

What in the World podcast. She has spent much of her career working to bring greater diversity

into foreign policy and national security careers. Welcome to Our Body Politics, Boomie.

It's so great to have you.

Thank you so much, Hagar.

It's so great to be here and chat with you about this.

Yes.

We're also joined by our very own Farai Chidea,

creator and host of Our Body Politics

and someone who's truly become an inspiration to me.

Hi, Farai.

It's great to see you.

It's great to see you. It's great to see you.

And we are actually seeing each other face to face. We're in the same studio, which is not usually

how it rolls. So it's a great, great pleasure. It's very exciting. I'm happy to be here.

This week, we're discussing the political situation in Brazil against the backdrop of rising populism

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