OB324: No Approach Means No ODP

Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk

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4.9 • 966 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2024

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Episode 324 Show Notes

Topic of the show: On this week's show, AG and RH discuss the risks associated with departing from a non towered airport without a published instrument approach procedure. What should every pilot understand about the departure? How will they maintain terrain and obstruction clearance? Can ATC provide them with an IFR clearance if they depart VFR but are below the minimum vectoring altitude? We discuss this complex issue and many more of your aviation questions and feedback. You don't want to miss this episode.

Timely Feedback:

1. The TERPS Elf sends feedback about feedback he already sent and we forgot about. Also sent a link to another related conversation:
https://stuckmicavcast.com/ifr/smac287-beyond-the-ifr-checkride-part-2/
2. Patron PD shares a technique on cold call procedures

3. Patron SG talk about NorCal flight following call ups

4. Patron AF asks about AI, German controllers and long feedback.

Feedback

1. Patron DW provides a DIYers timeline.

2. Patron SG shares a great technique for airborne IFR cancellation and discusses circling minimums.

3. Patron HTB expresses dismay over ILS critical area disruptions.

4. Patron MTW asks about AI in ATC.

5. Patron BD provides more insight into Angel Flight flying.

Mentioned on the show: Terps Elf response to our missed approach question on OB136 (8/3/2020), starting at about 52:28 where we discuss his response: https://opposingbases.libsyn.com/ob136-terps-elf-on-a-bravo-shelf

Angel Flight West: https://angelflightwest.org/

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0:00.0	You're not going to get that.
0:01.3	You're not going to get some get out of jail free card from ATC.
0:05.2	It isn't their responsibility.
0:07.0	They're just going to give you a clearance.
0:08.4	And it's probably going to say as filed.
0:11.0	Ready.
0:19.9	This is a posing basis air traffic talk. Your host, Alpha Golf and Romeo Hotel, have a half century of aviation experience in combat helicopters, airliners, and air traffic control. They answer your questions about flying, aviation, and ATC. This weekly podcast is for entertainment and education and does not serve as a replacement
0:42.3	for a qualified flight instructor, an examiner, the FARs, the 7110, your best friend, your next pilot, or your cat.
0:52.0	November 628, Charlie Delft,, 1-200, frequency change approved.
0:56.2	The audio will be available on live ATC.
0:58.5	Good day.
0:59.4	November 643, Julie,
1:00.9	my clear, visual approach.
1:01.9	One way, two, three left.
1:02.9	Connick Tower.
1:03.7	November 3-22-2-Yanky,
1:06.5	area of heavy to extreme precipitation
1:08.5	to the clock to one o'clock,
1:10.5	15 miles, 7 miles and 90.
1:12.4	3.07 Charlie, try a departure,
1:14.6	radar contact, climb and maintain 8.
1:16.2	November 747 Sierra Leuma,
	...

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