So would you say you got a better shot of them going in and not so much coming out?

You could say that?

I did say that. Would you say that?

Chester and I paid for his lawyer's condo in Aspen and my lawyer's condo in Maui. They're very happy. They're going to trade once a year.

I would love to sue them.

Only it would mean hiring another lawyer.

Meanwhile, at the Hall of Justice, the Superbrands.

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Hey guys, I'm Liz Di with me as Andrew Torres and this is opening arguments

episode 844.

Hey Liz, how are you? I can hear you loud and clear.

Very funny. We, you guys, we just recorded this show and then I realized that when I let my computer update last night

It changed out all of my sound settings

So we're doing this show for the second time tonight. So we're gonna be so good at it it's going to be amazing.

Yeah it's twice as good as it usually is.

Absolutely we're like the double mint twins.

And we have a fantastic show for you we get two really interesting stories first and I know this is near and dear to your heart.

We have the start of Rudy Giuliani's defamation trial. That's the one brought by

former Atlanta poll worker Shay Moss Ruby Freeman and

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