Welcome to the Beat. I'm Ari Melba and this is one of those times when we begin with breaking news that we're just getting in a story crossing from the New York Times citing four sources about the potential indictment of Donald Trump in New York.

This is the kind of leak, the kind of indication you may have heard before and said, well, are we back to more and more discussion about a possible indictment that will never come?

The answer,

I can't give you tonight. What I can tell you is the New York Times says, with more than two sources here, a full four sources, that the DA in New York is looking at campaign hush money payments,

the somewhat infamous payments that Donald Trump made, and that part is known and proven to Stormy Daniels

pursuant to the 2016 campaign, what many saw as a cover-up, but something that's never been

charged. Here's the headline, according to the New York Times, prosecutors signal criminal charges

for Trump are likely. Indeed, according to this reporting, D.A. Alvin Bragg, who's been on this program,

indeed, to explain why they didn't go forward on the discussion of potentially charging Donald

Trump pursuant to financial crimes at the Trump organization, where his CFO was famously convicted,

the DA's office here in New York, now moving forward, and it says, according to the New York Times,

in this brand new story, just crossing, that they've given Donald Trump the opportunity to appear

before the New York grand jury. Based on the way that Donald Trump has fought many different

probes, including this one, there's no reasonable expectation that his lawyers would put him in

the grand jury box. Indeed, he went many months fighting the related New York Attorney General request to sit down. When he did, he only pled the fifth,

never gave any substantive answers. But this is a big headline, albeit somewhat familiar,

the story familiar, because other prosecutors and other investigative entities have looked

through those 2016 hush money payments before, and familiar because

we've seen Donald Trump, basically, I think everyone knows by now, evades certain probes.

But this is a sign, according to the New York Times, at the DA's office, is, they say, very close

to considering closing this case with some sort of indictment. I want to bring in two reporters

who know how to do

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