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#NYC: Bernie Goetz, 1987,and Self-defense in the subway, 2023.. Harry Siegel, The City, New York Daily News

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🗓️ 22 June 2023

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#NYC: Bernie Goetz, 1987,and Self-defense in the subway, 2023.. Harry Siegel, The City, New York Daily News
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-eric-adams-self-defense-strategy-is-backfiring-20230617-34gr4fs3xnexrhfa5ayy3twn4i-story.html


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0:00.0

This is CBS I In The World.

0:07.0

I'm John Batchewith.

0:08.0

My colleague Harry Segel.

0:09.0

He's a senior editor at the city and online journal.

0:11.8

I highly recommend, as well as a columnist for the New York Daily News.

0:16.0

I highly recommend.

0:17.0

Bernie Gatz, 1987.

0:19.0

John was much younger, and it was the puzzle at the time what it was about, because though

0:24.6

the subways in those days were crowded, and the city itself was enjoying the first fruits

0:32.6

of what would be a renaissance in the 1990s.

0:35.6

However, Bernie Gatz, a young man with no adequate motive, used a weapon to shoot 14 acres

0:42.0

on a subway system.

0:44.1

One of them, as I recall, was paralyzed for life.

0:47.4

Bernie Gatz said he was defending himself from a robbery attempt.

0:52.3

That was always a little ambiguous.

0:54.2

Now here we are in the 21st century.

0:56.8

And Harry, you write not just of the tragedies of the Marine and the homeless man, but

1:04.8

also additional tragedies where self-defense is used as an explanation or rationalization.

1:12.2

Harry, is this a trend in Manhattan?

1:15.2

Is this a trend in the subway system in general?

1:17.9

How is it understood?

1:19.1

Is a self-defense mechanism breaking out all of a sudden?

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