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Let me take you back to about six years ago.

I'm walking up to the door of a small self-help center.

It goes by a couple of different names.

One of them is Executive Success Program, or ESP for short.

Another name is Nexium, like the Heartburn medication.

Thank you. I'm at this place to meet one of the richest women in America.

Her name is Claire Pompfinn, and she's giving me a tour.

Every center has like different pictures of friends and people who come here.

Claire was raised in the UK and she has one of those upper crust British accents. She has light brown hair and is incredibly slight.

When I thought of her, I thought of one of those mice that can collapse their

bodies to get into really small spaces.

In terms of this center, there had actually been reports that this self-help group was a cult. I was there to find out if that was true.

Now when it says ESP executive success programs, but is it with you get ESP from it? Is that part of the reason that?

No, not at all?

Well, how would you define ESP?

Being able to, you know, divine other people's thoughts or have

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