Nury Turkel: Will the world stand up for China's Uyghurs?
The Interview
BBC
4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 7 July 2022
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
Stephen Sackur speaks to Nury Turkel, a prominent Uyghur activist in exile and chair of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom. He is a key leader in the effort to pressure China to end the repression of the Uyghurs. But is his campaign doomed to fail?
(Photo: Nury Turkel in the Hardtalk studio)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hard Talk with me, Stephen Sacker. From the moment of his birth, my guest today had good reason to view the Chinese Communist Party with deep misgivings. |
| 0:11.1 | Nuri Turkel's mother was a detainee in one of Mao's re-education camps at the height of the cultural revolution when he entered the world. |
| 0:20.5 | He and his mum barely survived those early months of desperate hardship, |
| 0:25.0 | while his father, a former maths teacher, endured prison for a good deal longer. |
| 0:30.8 | Terkel's family were Muslim Uyghurs from Xinjiang in the far west of China, |
| 0:36.8 | a land of mountains and steps which the party leadership |
| 0:40.4 | was determined to subjugate, culturally, politically and economically. |
| 0:46.2 | In his early 20s, Nouri Turkel was granted a travel visa to study at the University of Idaho in the US. |
| 0:53.6 | He left China in 1995 and has never been able to return. |
| 0:59.0 | In recent years, the repression of the Uighur Muslim community in Xinjiang has attracted worldwide |
| 1:04.8 | condemnation. Eyewitness evidence and leaks from Chinese official sources point to systematic efforts to eliminate |
| 1:13.0 | Uyghur identity in the name of a government campaign against terrorism and destabilization. |
| 1:20.6 | Hundreds of thousands of people have passed through detention or re-education camps, |
| 1:27.1 | accounts of violence, torture, sexual abuse and forced sterilization are legion. |
| 1:33.5 | The U.S. government and several others in the West say the Chinese actions amount to genocide. |
| 1:39.4 | Nuri Tockel, who is a lawyer, activist, and now chair of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom |
| 1:46.7 | is at the forefront of the campaign to put pressure on China to change course. |
| 1:53.2 | But is that a forlorn hope? |
| 1:55.9 | Well, he joins me now. Welcome to Hard Talk. |
| 1:58.9 | Thank you very much for having me back. |
| 2:00.6 | It is a great pleasure to have you on the show. |
| 2:02.4 | Now, your home is in the United States. Your homeland is Xinjiang in China. Are you able today to get information from Xinjiang, to get a clear picture of what today's China strategy in that region is. |
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