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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third

sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to Need to Know. I'm David Rothkopf, and this week is every week we talk to people who are close to the news,

newsmakers, experts who can provide us with perspectives and things we care about.

And every couple of weeks among that list of experts, we like to talk to the smartest people we know about American politics.

And that would include Tara McGowan, the mentor, the empress of Currier Newsroom.

How are you doing, Tara?

I am sitting in my empress power today, David.

Well, we see, you're on a throne there, and that's why we're here.

And I would say that Simon Rosenberg was the king of hopium,

but there are no kings, right, Simon? No kings, David, no kings. But you're certainly very,

very high atop all that. How are you doing today, Simon? I'm always pleased to be with the two of you, so I'm happy.

Yeah, no, I find this comforting.

It's been a rough few days.

And I have to say I'm a little bleak, you know, pictures of the White House being torn down.

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