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The NPR Politics Podcast

NPR Exclusive: Harassment In The Federal Judiciary

The NPR Politics Podcast

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Politics, Daily News, News

4.524.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

People who work for the federal court system don't have the same kinds of job protections that most other Americans do.

A nearly year-long NPR investigation has found problems with the way the courts police sexual harassment and bullying and a pervasive culture of fear about blowing the whistle.

This episode: political correspondent Susan Davis, national justice correspondent Carrie Johnson, and senior national political correspondent Mara Liasson.

The podcast is produced by Bria Suggs & Kelli Wessinger and edited by Casey Morell. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.

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0:25.0

Hey there, it's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Susan Davis. I cover politics.

0:27.5

I'm Carrie Johnson. I cover the Justice Department.

0:30.7

And I'm Mara Liason, senior national political correspondent.

0:37.1

And it is 159 p.m. on Tuesday, February 25th. And today on the show, an NPR exclusive, an investigation into the federal court

0:39.3

system, the people who work there, and what happens when they're faced with sexual harassment

0:43.6

or bullying. And a heads up, we will be talking about sexual assault in this episode.

0:49.2

Carrie, this is your reporting. You spent the better part of a year reporting this story out,

0:53.3

and we're going to have more of that reporting on the podcast this weekend. But first, I'm always curious about what led you to

0:59.0

start asking questions about this in the first place. You know, over the last few years, I've really

1:03.1

been thinking about accountability and the balance of power in all kinds of different contexts.

1:09.7

And it seemed to me the federal courts were kind of

1:12.2

underinvestigated. And so I did a piece last year. We put out a call out for stories from people

1:17.9

around the country who have worked in some capacity for the federal court system. And I heard back

1:22.2

from dozens and dozens and dozens of people. I spent weeks and weeks and weeks last year on and off in between

1:28.3

reporting about what the Justice Department was doing talking to people about their experience

1:32.8

working for the courts, either for judges or probation or parole offices or federal public

1:38.9

defenders and the like. And what I heard was really important, I think. And we're going to hear

1:43.7

more about that on Saturday.

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