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Talking Politics: HISTORY OF IDEAS

Nozick on Utopia

Talking Politics: HISTORY OF IDEAS

Talking Politics

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🗓️ 13 April 2021

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Robert Nozick’s Anarchy, State and Utopia (1974) was designed as a rebuttal to Rawls but it was so much more than that. It offered a defence of the minimal state that appealed to the writers of The Sopranos and a vision of utopia that appealed to the founders of Silicon Valley. David explores what Nozick wanted to achieve and identifies the surprising radicalism behind his political minimalism.


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Going Deeper:


Robert Nozick, The Examined Life (1989)

Jonathan Wolff, Robert Nozick: Property, Justice and the Minimal State (1991)

Stephen Metcalf, ‘The Liberty Scam’, Slate (2011)

[Video] Shelly Kagan, 'Hedonism and Nozick's Experience Machine' (from Open Yale Courses)



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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Catherine Carr, producer of Talking Politics. This week's episode of History of

0:23.0

Ideas, watching and partnership with the London Review of Books is about Robert

0:27.0

Nozick's Anarchy, State and Utopia, one of the favourite books of the tech billionaires in Silicon Valley.

0:34.0

What is it about this libertarian call to arms from the 1970s that still resonates today?

0:57.0

I want to begin this time by reading out a list of names.

1:01.0

And the question about this list is what do all these people have in common?

1:05.0

You'll have to bear with me because it's quite a long list. You may lose the will to live.

1:09.0

It does end eventually and the payoff comes at the end as well.

1:13.0

So here's the list. What do these people have in common?

1:18.0

Vickinstein, Elizabeth Taylor, Bertrand Russell, Thomas Merton, Yogi Berra, Alan Ginsberg, Harry Walson, Theroux, Casey Stangle, The Lubavitcha Rebbe, Picasso, Moses, Einstein, Hugh Hefner, Socrates, Henry Ford, Lenny Bruce, Babaram Dars, Gandhi, Sir Edmund Hillary, Raymond Lubits, Buddha, Frank Sinatra, Columbus, Freud, Norman Meiler,

1:46.0

Ayn Rand, Baron Rothschild, Ted Williams, Thomas Edison, HL Menken, Thomas Jefferson, Ralph Ellison, Bobby Fisher, Emma Goldman, Peter Kropotkin, you, your parents.

2:02.0

That's the end of the list we got there.

2:05.0

So what do all these people have in common?

2:08.0

The list comes from the book I'm talking about today, Robert Nozix, Anarchy, State, and Utopia.

2:15.0

And it's a book published in 1974. It's quite a 1970s list.

2:20.0

The first thing I think that stands out about all those people is they're almost all men.

2:24.0

There are very few women on that list. There are Elizabeth Taylor's at the top, Ayn Rand, Emma Goldman.

2:31.0

There are quite a few baseball players on that list. That's slightly odd.

2:35.0

But what do they have in common? The answer, of course, is nothing.

2:40.0

Those people do not have anything in common. They're just famous names.

2:46.0

And the point of the list is to suggest just how ridiculous it would be to try and conceive of a society,

2:52.0

a political arrangement, a conception of justice, a way of ordering the good life, even an idea of what it would be to lead a good life.

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