Now Trump is Really Scared By Epstein: Wolff

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🗓️ 15 July 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Michael Wolff joins Daily Beast Executive Editor Hugh Dougherty to unpack the chaos of what may be the first lasting MAGA civil war—and why it centers on Jeffrey Epstein. Wolff, who's authored 4 biographies on Trump, was present when Steve Bannon met Epstein. Wolff exposes the bizarre triangle between Trump, Bannon, and Epstein, including how Bannon became a key promoter of the very conspiracy he’s entangled in. Wolff describes how MAGA influencers are now caught between defending Trump and pursuing the elite-exposing narrative they helped create. He also reveals that Trump once considered pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell and had known her since the early days of his deep friendship with Epstein. As Trump lashes out on Truth Social and desperately struggles to change the subject, Wolff suggests this scandal might finally stick—or at least rattle him more than most. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:33.2	They were going to expose Epstein with no understanding that if they expose Epstein, it is very likely they are going to expose Donald Trump.
0:45.3	So, therefore, they made a mistake by announcing that they were going to do this.
0:49.9	Then Trump got pissed at them for this.
0:52.3	Then they tried to cover over their mistake by saying, oh, no, there's nothing here.
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1:01.3	Welcome to the Daily Beast podcast.
1:03.5	I'm Hugh Doherty.
1:04.4	I'm executive editor of The Daily Beast.
1:06.4	And I'm in for Joanna, who is taking a well-deserved vacation.
1:10.2	But in Donald Trump's America, there is
1:12.4	no vacation from the news. And especially right now, with Donald Trump's own base being on fire
1:20.1	about the Jeffrey Epstein files and the fallout from what some of them are calling a massive
1:25.6	cover-up. Now, just to catch you back up, back in February,
1:29.3	Trump's attorney general, Pam Bondi, had this to say.
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