November 20, 2016 — Jan Harzan with Goggs Mackay

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🗓️ 20 November 2016

⏱️ 159 minutes

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Summary

Gene and guest co-host Goggs Mackay welcome Jan Harzan, Executive Director for MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network. Harzan has been interested in UFO for years, the result of a significant sighting when he was a child. He is a retired IBM executive, and previously headed the Orange County, CA MUFON chapter for 18 years as the State Section Director. During this wide-ranging discussion, he'll provide an overview of the state of UFO research, possible solutions to the mystery that go beyond spaceships from other worlds, the possibilities for disclosure, what a President might or might not know about UFOs, and how secrecy can be kept for decades. (Note: The interview continues on the November 20th episode of After The Paracast, a special feature of The Paracast+.)

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0:00.0	This program is brought to you by the Genesis Communications Network, a world leader in talk radio since 1998.
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0:37.2	Thank you. You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.
0:41.0	And now, here's Gene Steinberg.
0:45.4	Chris O'Brien is running a little late.
0:49.9	He's back home from, believe it or not, but a little bit later, we'll also be hearing from one of our famed forum moderators.
0:53.7	That sounds really positive.
0:55.0	Goggs McKay, who will be reporting in from his palatial estate or shack in Scotland.
1:00.6	Of course, last week, then we had Bob Zanati, a good friend of mine,
1:05.8	a former paranormal radio broadcaster on the show.
1:08.7	We had Goggs as the guest co-hosted.
1:12.1	But this week, we welcome back someone who was on the show back in 2013, probably not long after he took on his post
1:19.1	as the, what do they call it, executive director of the Mutual UFO Network, MoveOn. Now, I've heard
1:26.3	the post referred to as director, international
1:28.9	director, and executive director. Is that a difference without a distinction? Well, actually,
1:35.0	back in about 2012, the then current international director, Dave McDonald, came to the board
1:41.7	and said he'd like to change the title from international director to executive director to be more in line with what other non-profits call their lead,
1:49.2	you know, executive. So we went ahead and just voted to make an executive director. I actually
1:53.1	like the international director better. It sounds bigger. It sounds more famous, you know,
1:57.8	executive is somebody who sits in an office. Yeah, but an international
2:01.5	director. I mean, that's tremendous. It sounds like you're a world traveler. But are you a world
2:07.2	traveler? Does Mufon have lots of members outside the U.S.? Well, we actually do. We have
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