There is no lack of creative interesting ideas in the world.

In fact, it's the greatest squandered resource in the world is all those people out there

who got them, who have no forum in which to say them, who are literally told to shut

up or they'll be beaten or killed.

There's probably no person on earth who hasn't thought up at least one interesting idea

that might solve a problem that no one in this room would have thought of.

The question is how to unleash that.

Welcome to Navara FM.

I'm your host, Eleanor Penny.

Let's start at the very beginning.

Humanity was once banded together in loose tribes of hunter-gatherers,

living a primitive existence of, depending on who you ask,

pre-lapsarian innocence or unrestrained savagery.

Then at some point we discover agriculture, our original sin,

and this causes us to gather in ever-larger connotations, eventually cities and then states.

From this we get civilisation as we know it.

Science, literature, organised religion, medicine, culture, progress with the capital P.

We also get domination, hierarchy and inequality.

The price of the former is the latter,

and one way or another to challenge these social arrangements would be to deny essential facts about human history.

It's a very neat story, one that we've heard a thousand times before,

and one that structures and justifies much contemporary political thought about what is and isn't possible.

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