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My History Can Beat Up Your Politics

NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT: Part One - Horatio Seymour, Horace Greeley and Others

My History Can Beat Up Your Politics

Bruce Carlson

News, Politics, History

4.51.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

One thing Horatio Seymour made clear was that he was not running for President. He made it clear by saying not only he would not run but that he "must not be President." His party simply didn't care. And so, there he was on the ballot. In this three-part series we look at people not running for President, not knowing they were running, or in the case of Greeley unable to finish the run because, well, they were not alive. You'll find that not running for President (but announcing it) is almost as much a part of American political history as running for the office. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In other words, you're running for president whether you want it or not. Oh, It was true that most 19th century candidates were supposed to show disinterest in the presidency

1:07.2

when they were getting nominated, but with Horatio Seymour, it was taken to a new limit. He really did not want the presidency, nor even his party's

1:16.9

nomination for it. But in the 1868 Democratic Convention, Tammany Hall in New York City. There was an issue. George Pendleton who had turned

1:27.5

off Union soldiers in 1864 as the Peace Democrat. He was leading. He was charismatic. A lot of Democrats liked him, but enough

1:35.2

didn't to withhold a majority from him. Andrew Johnson, the current president, was a possibility.

1:41.6

But not all Democrats trust him. He had run with Lincoln on the Union ticket and

1:45.2

attacked Democrats in Tennessee. Samuel Chase, Supreme Court Justice, Chief. He was a possibility too, but he was a former Republican again and attacked Democrats.

1:54.8

Senator Thomas, a Hendricks of Indiana was a possibility, but no one could get the 212 needed

2:00.4

for 15 ballots.

2:02.8

And Winfield Scott's even, Hancock, Union General is thrown in.

2:07.4

He gets past Pendleton and takes Pendleton out, but he doesn't get the 212 to win.

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