It's Thursday, June 12th, 2024 from Peachfish Productions.

It's the gist.

I'm Mike Peska.

Today is a not even mad day.

We have Matthew Iglesias, who does the slow, boring newsletter.

I wonder if he had to redo that if you title it the slow boring newsletter.

It's not.

I find that exciting.

Yes, it is a play on words.

You know, progress is the slow boring as in driving a hole through your obstacles.

I bet he would do it again because it's a great newsletter and it does monster business.

And so we're going to talk to Matt and joining us is Alison Trayger's been on

the show before, who is one of my favorite people and economists. Well, people who are

economists, economists. You know what? Economists who are people. That's the category she's in.

She does opinion writing for Bloomberg. And they're, you know, I'm not even mad. I like to mix it up a

little bit, a little left, a little right. Allison is more to the right than either of us.

And I will tell you in the pre-show chatter, Matt says that he's most comfortable not being

the leftmost person on a panel discussion.

And I said to Matt, but you're always accused of not being a real Democrat.

Won't this burnish your credentials?

But he just told me what he was most comfortable being the guy among the liberals or the Democrats who says,

you know, actually, efficient market theory.

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