Hi, I'm Ben Sass.

And I'm Chris Steyerwalt.

And this is not dead yet.

We're all dying, but only some of us have been brought face to face with that reality.

However long, each of us have to do it, though, we all want to live a good life.

One with meaning, love, and joy. And our guests are here to help us do exactly that.

All right, Ben Sass. It's been a while since I've rapped at you.

But every time I turn around, there you are.

You're like the ubiquitous Ben's ass.

But I don't know how you're doing.

How are you doing?

Well, first of all, it is really weird not just to not do almost all the interviews.

I don't know.

I don't know what's, I don't even know how to think about the, the death interview pipeline for different media channels, but it isn't just that we're not doing 97% of them.

We're accidentally not replying the 92% of them. It's not that we're declining people.

It's just, I don't know how to the inbox right now. I sleep all the time.

I'm super lazy. But because when interviews come out, they seem to like preview them and then do

them and then talk about what they did. My mom also believes I'm way too unresponsive to her text,

because any day she's texted me, she then heard something on Nebraska radio about something else

we supposedly did,

which wasn't really yesterday. It was like a month and a half ago, but whatever's.

But you seem good. Do you feel good? How do you feel? I'm very grateful. You know, I don't want

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