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NORTH KOREA: ARSENAL OF THE AXIS. BRUCE BECHTOL. @GORDONGCHANG, GATESTONE, NEWSWEEK, THE HILL

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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NORTH KOREA: ARSENAL OF THE AXIS. BRUCE BECHTOL. @GORDONGCHANG, GATESTONE, NEWSWEEK, THE HILL
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0:00.0

This is CBS, I in the World. Gordon Chang at Gordon-Gee-Chang, my colleague, and we go to our colleague, Bruce Bechtel, the author of the new book, Rogue Allies, the strategic partnership between Iran and North Korea. He's a professor at Angelo State University. I look forward to speaking to Bruce of his book, but right now we have a headline that the IEA

0:25.6

is now declaring and ready to publish that it has been misled and deceived by Iran for many years,

0:32.6

and that it is now discovering Iran's activities with the regarded suspect nuclear weapons program

0:38.6

are way beyond their expectation.

0:40.9

At the same time, we have long spoken with Bruce about the link, the very hard link,

0:47.0

between the North Korean nuclear weapons program and the Iranian weapons program,

0:53.3

in addition to all the other activities

0:55.1

that go on back and forth about their ballistic missiles.

0:59.5

Bruce, a very good day to you.

1:01.1

This new IAE report looks to be recognizing that Iran has advanced, and one way to expect

1:06.3

that is that North Korea is a nuclear power.

1:10.8

Your understanding of how much technology, how much direction has been shared over the years

1:15.3

between Pyongyang and Tehran.

1:17.0

Good day, to you, Bruce.

1:19.1

Good morning, John.

1:20.5

And good morning, Mr. Gordon Chang.

1:24.6

Quite a bit, if I could answer your question.

1:26.7

That's a question I could take an hour

1:28.2

answer, but I'll try to do it in about a minute. Essentially, what happened was in the very,

1:34.1

very early 2000s, North Korea was able to fill a void that had been filled by Pakistan

1:41.3

and supporting Iran's North Korean nuclear program. They filled that void,

1:46.3

providing them with H.E.U. Highly enriched uranium technology and assistance, including

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