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The Athletic

The Athletic.

The race is on.

And with the driver's championship already as good as won by Max Verstappen,

what does Lando Norris need to do to take the step from race winner to real title contender in 2025?

I'm Ed Stur and joining me to tackle that topic, and much more besides, are Mark Hughes and Ben Anderson.

Well, Mark, how are you doing? Enjoying a little bit of a gap after that frenetic triple header? Yeah, that was all a bit wild, wasn't it? It's a bang, bang, bang, and then a quick little gap to get on the right time zone and then off to Qatar. Yeah, for another bang, bang, bang, as it were. But of of course, before that, there's Las Vegas, Ben, which you'll be joining me for.

Yes, I will be.

I'm delighted to be back on the podcast. I've been benched, I think, since, was it Austin the last time I appeared, post-race, bleary-eyed and delirious? number on the list as we've established before so when no one else can do it you get you get drafted in. I'm really, well, however it's come about, I'm very happy to be back in the starting lineup. And in Vegas, because I'll be there with you, you won't be able to ignore me. Exactly, exactly. That's going to be an interesting weekend. I was going to say a fun weekend, but yeah, Vegas last year was interesting, I would say. So it has changed a little bit bit some of the timings have shifted around okay I doubt if we'll have a 3 a.m. free practice session or whatever but it's got to be better the second time around hasn't it surely that's what I'm banking on it'll have lost its novelty that's the that's the trouble though if you say novelty away maybe it'll just be mine. But actually, no, I mean, Vegas is a great

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